Claudio Marchisio

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Claudio Marchisio

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 13:55

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby master smurf » 2010 Sep 19, 17:59

You just suggested 80 and now you say 83-84 ???

I would agree to 79 - 80 for ST
SP is fine at current value
SA could go to 75

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby Rfuna » 2010 Sep 19, 18:11

Hmm, why has no one mentioned 1tch-Pass?

P.S.why's he keep pounding on his chest affirming his intentions to remain at Juve? Does he really think Inter were really considering bringing him in :lol:

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby Alex_10 » 2010 Sep 19, 22:20

Rfuna wrote:Hmm, why has no one mentioned 1tch-Pass?

I don't know, maybe about the frequency of such a display? I follow him from his youth, and if there is space and time he prefers an aimed and composed attempt rather than a possible first-time screamer.. Maybe he is gaining confidence now..

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby andy4ita » 2010 Sep 20, 06:09

master smurf wrote:You just suggested 80 and now you say 83-84 ???

I would agree to 79 - 80 for ST
SP is fine at current value
SA could go to 75


I agree with him, ST should be at 83 minimum, and I honestly I think he should have a little more points in agility, when he is in good shape he can just overpass the opponent in several ways.

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby Ace » 2010 Sep 20, 11:18

andy4ita wrote:I agree with him, ST should be at 83 minimum

Minimum? With 83 he will be on par with Sneijder, Aquilani, and since you said "minimum" you are even thinkig about 84 or 85 (like Ribery) or 86. Do you really want to increase his value by almost 10 points?

andy4ita wrote:and I honestly I think he should have a little more points in agility, when he is in good shape he can just overpass the opponent in several ways.

In PES language, you are talking about orange or red arrows. Well, with orange arrow he will be around 86, and with a red arrow he's around 91. This is exactly what are you talking about.

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby SebaGiovinco » 2010 Oct 31, 09:47

Boys.. He surely needs SMF .. With Mister Del Neri he's playing always in this position ...in the right or in the left.. I think he has played about 9 or 10 matches in that position ... you could look at this site if you aren't sure of that: http://www.football-lineups.com/team/Ju ... 11/fixture
I hope you consider this position for him... and if you have seen his last matches you'd give him a little update too.. but i think the update could wait some weeks..

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby Gugu » 2010 Oct 31, 09:56

He does play there now... at least optional if not a full position, as Aqui and melo are in the center and I don't think anything will change soon.

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby SebaGiovinco » 2010 Oct 31, 10:08

As a matter of fact he play there because of the explosion of Aquilani and Melo in the middle.. but he surely will play there this season, and i think he deserves SMF but not as optional position, because he can play there really really good, not to usurp that position, but because of his ductility..
I think he has played better there than in the middle.. So i think OPTIONAL POSITION is not necessary..

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby Gugu » 2010 Oct 31, 10:35

That's what I said :roll:, I agree nevertheless.

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby Alex_10 » 2010 Oct 31, 10:36

However he doesn't play as a full-fledged winger, he is more a CC playing wide on the side. Anyway he's showing good things on the flank, he can surpass his man with both dribbling or pace (anyway can't run away like Krasic), anyone thinks he can have a little boost to AGI TEC DA DS? I can't see that wide gap between him and Pepe in AGI and DS and Pepe has not to be higher in TEC or DA than him.

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby SebaGiovinco » 2010 Oct 31, 10:48

A CC who plays wide on the side is a SMF.. also because of the Del Neri module.. the classic 4-4-2 ..with 2 players in the middle and 2 in the wings..
Yes, he surely does more defensive abilities than Krasic, but because of his features, he's a wing with more defensive duties that Krasic, who deals more the offensive work.. but both are wings.. the difference between the Del Neri wings, in Juventus, are only the DEFENSIVE/OFFENSIVE abilities, but, I repeat, both are wings (SMF)

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby zuo » 2010 Nov 01, 13:19

to me his BB is still too high.......i really can't see him stronger than Perrotta or Jovetic. also both of them are more effective in the air than marchisio.
Also Marchisio vs Milan (example vs Antonini) didnt looked a +4 BB on Quagliarella (who won too battles vs Antonini)

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby crisfar » 2010 Nov 07, 21:01

He is playing as SMF but as him and Del Neri said he has to move toward the centre to help Aqui and Melo and let more freedom to the opposite wing to go forward so that module can become more a 4-3-3...anyway IMO SMF position optional or not can be added...

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby SebaGiovinco » 2010 Nov 07, 21:53

infact, also gugu2903 said me in PM that agree with add this position to him.. if you want, i think you can put it optional, but he surely nedds SMF.. (both sides)

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby Gugu » 2010 Nov 07, 22:07

IMO at least optional, I can't see the formation changing in the forseeable, also the quality of subs in that position is really high, and anyway in PES even with smf as a position he still is registered and is more suited to that role, maybe bar martinez (unpredictable agg) and lazafame I can't see this changing anytime soon.
I mean, we all know that pepe is crap, right :)

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby SebaGiovinco » 2010 Nov 10, 18:08

If this night he'll play SMF i think he will finally have this position..

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby Alex_10 » 2010 Nov 10, 19:25

He will play SMF this night, no-one could fill in the position..

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby SebaGiovinco » 2011 Jan 30, 22:09

I repeat that his ST is completely wrong. Who has seen his last gol against Udinese will be sure of that.
I've said this upgrade many days ago, but now I'm completely sure he needs a ST update.

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby clapton » 2011 Jan 30, 23:36

great goal tonight. deserves 80+ ;)

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Re: Claudio MARCHISIO

Postby John » 2011 Feb 02, 04:21

Just questioning, is his ability to trap the ball one of his very few weaknesses??

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