Andrea Pirlo | 2004-2006 | 2011-2012

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Andrea Pirlo | 2004-2006 | 2011-2012

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Oct 09, 11:29

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006

Postby Brezza » 2009 Oct 10, 03:23

I remember deleting about two sets of Pirlo stats already. :lol:
Meh, I think i'll keep these due to high demand plus Pirlo in his prime is needed for quite a few threads (Italy/AC Milan All Stars) etc. Ive given him a bit of an overhaul though, and given myself first post credit.

I'll explain the stats later.

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006

Postby Plava Čigra » 2009 Oct 10, 08:16

No offence Brezza, but if these are Pirlo's stats in his prime, shouldn't he be better then current version: ac-milan/andrea-pirlo-t507.html

Only two things where he is a bit better then current Pirlo are SPA, Technique and Acceleration. Everything else is the same or worse a bit.

On the other hand, maybe current Pirlo is a bit overrated...

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006

Postby Brezza » 2009 Oct 10, 17:35

There are a couple of things I disagree with his current stats. Agility and dribble speed look abit too inflated and close to Cesc Fabregas. I don't really consider him 95 in teamwork either . Yes he has great vision but teamwork is abit more than that. It includes a players mobility getting more involved and getting on the end of teams moves, something that the likes of Xavi and Riquelme do much more in abundance. I wouldn't rate it higher than Xabi Alonso personally.

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006

Postby Oriello » 2009 Oct 24, 20:05

NightCaller3 wrote:No offence Brezza, but if these are Pirlo's stats in his prime, shouldn't he be better then current version: ac-milan/andrea-pirlo-t507.html

Only two things where he is a bit better then current Pirlo are SPA, Technique and Acceleration. Everything else is the same or worse a bit.

On the other hand, maybe current Pirlo is a bit overrated...
I have to state that I agree with this set in general pretty much more than his current version. Finally Mentality is out of the 80's, that and some other minor things like Brezza mentioned and p1rha attempted to convince others in his current thread that Teamwork is not Pirlo's best ability a 90-93 is sufficent - as his skill set is rather just his technical passing range not some uber telepathic understandings or selfless running of the ball for the team - quite the opposite in many instances.

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006

Postby p1rha » 2009 Oct 28, 19:57

This may sound :shock: to many people, but to me Pirlo is an 87 TW. And he is one of my favourite players ever. Of course i don't expect anyone to agree on this...

But this is not just about Pirlo, it's about the general way that playmakers are rated for TW:. They get the highest values while players who are often more cerebral than them - with a even better decision ability and understandment with the team, but not the same passing skills therefore not the same relevance in the colective, at least for the naked eye - get lower values. (i.e. should Lampard be rated below Pirlo in terms of TW? imo it should be the other way arround)

Any way, back to Pirlo. I'm glad u didn't use current Pirlo set as reference, he is overated beyond his best shape ever in some stats.

His pass speed is also a bit too high imo, both values should come down like 3 points to portrait that soft pass, so easy to trap. Tbh, i'm now playing 2010 with no editing and his LPS 78 feels very good together with his crazy swerve and accuracy, so SPS 87 and LPS 83 would fit him a hell better imo.

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006

Postby hsnandra » 2010 May 03, 20:48

Player Cards -

P04 – Anchor Man
P08 – Pinpoint Pass
P20 – Talisman

S02 – Passer
S04 – PK Taker
S06 – Outside Curve
S14 – Quick Turn
S20 – Scooping


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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006

Postby zswyt » 2011 Apr 22, 03:05

tech should be in god region

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006

Postby xeneize » 2011 May 07, 20:32

this pirlo was worst than the actual in ATT?

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006

Postby rgm91 » 2011 May 19, 19:15

zswyt wrote:tech should be in god region

I disagree if you look at ball control
but for tactical dribble skills I agree

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006

Postby ingus » 2011 Aug 19, 04:55

I really don't like his SP value. Imo for his floaty guided type shots he needs a really low SP with a high ST. Same for his freekicks, I feel low SP works much better.

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006

Postby Epsi » 2011 Aug 19, 12:24

jurgens wrote:I really don't like his SP value. Imo for his floaty guided type shots he needs a really low SP with a high ST. Same for his freekicks, I feel low SP works much better.


agreed. following my set in the current pirlo, I would like to see his classical version in something like this:

Length: 177
Weight: 68

Attack: 81
Defence: 65
Balance: 77
Stamina: 84
Top Speed: 76
Acceleration: 76
Response: 82
Agility: 82
Dribble Accuracy: 87
Dribble Speed: 79
Short Pass Accuracy: 95
Short Pass Speed: 88
Long Pass Accuracy: 98
Long Pass Speed: 86
Shot Accuracy: 77
Shot Power: 83
Shot Technique: 81
Free Kick Accuracy: 90
Curling: 97
Header: 70
Jump: 71
Technique: 91
Aggression: 68
Mentality: 78
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 92

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy: 7
Weak Foot Frequency: 6

S21 - Step On Skills
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S05 - 1-touch Play
S06 - Outside curve
S16 - Roulette Skills
S18 - Turning Skills
P06 - Pinpoint Pass
P18 - Talisman

nothing drastically changed, except attack (following the new standards), defence (never worth to be 68 def imo), response and shooting.

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006

Postby ingus » 2011 Aug 20, 00:24

Nice set. A lot similarties with what I'm using. I'll just go over what changes I'd make.

SP: Well first of... on psd thanks to poor ratings pirlos freekicks have always been really mediocre in comparison with other great takers because of the SP. He has such a high shot power which completely negates/counters his strong points. His freekick style allows for a lot of curl and dip. With a high SP it just ruins everything. He hits them so hard theres no time to curl or dip the ball... it also means theres much less chance of putting it over the wall. With a low SP of 80 you can do anything that pirlo could do. The high fka means you can just guide them straight on into the net, the curl and style and the SP that allows you to utilise them, allows you curl and dip the ball like just like pirlo. Anywhere becomes an opportunity to score... but it gets harder from 36m's or so due to the low SP... which is just right imo.

Heres a quick example I took of 80 SP with 86 fka and 97 curl. (ignore the audio.. forgot fraps records backround)



It's got that slow guided "floaty effect" and tone of curl and dip.

And not just for freekicks, a mid yellow value just isn't needed to to represent what he shows in reality. Normal shots get that guided floaty effect with the higher ST and lower SP. So sp: 80
Balance: You really think hes only worth a 77? Maybe he doesn't need a value so close to 80... but a 77 seems a little too low.

SPA: I know pirlo was an incredible passer, but I feel SPA of red is just slight too much for him. I'd take it down to 94... can't see him being over Ronaldinho and so close to xavi. I think 94 is a great value for him.


DA: I think 87 is a little too low. He had such a close control and was just such a silky dribbler. I'd keep him at a value close to xavi. xavis at 89.... but honestly, he could be higher. I've just assigned him an 89 as I don't like how "free flowing" players feel with orange values. So considering that.. I'd keep pirlo around the 88/89 mark too. I'd go with 80 ds too.

tech: I'd keep tech the same or take down a point at most.

rest looks great to me

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006

Postby Brezza » 2011 Aug 22, 21:18

Updated ;) I understand the Shot power argument but are you sure he can pull of those type of goals he scored against Real madrid, Parma and Ghana with 80 SP? maybe he could have even higher ST to compensate and get the very best out of SP

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006

Postby ingus » 2011 Aug 23, 00:17

I'm pretty sure. Actually the goal vs parma was what I was trying to get replicated, it looked to fast to me with higher SP. As long as he gets a decent angle and slight run he can still put a lot of power into them.

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006

Postby ballmer » 2011 Dec 05, 10:39

The post is a few years old now but p1rha made some points that, having been playing with this set for awhile, I think are on the right lines.

p1rha wrote:This may sound :shock: to many people, but to me Pirlo is an 87 TW. And he is one of my favourite players ever. Of course i don't expect anyone to agree on this...

But this is not just about Pirlo, it's about the general way that playmakers are rated for TW:. They get the highest values while players who are often more cerebral than them - with a even better decision ability and understandment with the team, but not the same passing skills therefore not the same relevance in the colective, at least for the naked eye - get lower values. (i.e. should Lampard be rated below Pirlo in terms of TW? imo it should be the other way arround)

His pass speed is also a bit too high imo, both values should come down like 3 points to portrait that soft pass, so easy to trap. Tbh, i'm now playing 2010 with no editing and his LPS 78 feels very good together with his crazy swerve and accuracy, so SPS 87 and LPS 83 would fit him a hell better imo.


I've been thinking these may be right. The passing speeds just feel a tad too fast in game. And TW seems responsible for some excessive movement on pitch - would adding the anchor man card help in making him hang back in the midfield more?

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006, 2012

Postby Epsi » 2012 Jun 29, 19:05

Balance at 74 is perfect for Pirlo. I'm using him with ST @ 74, sometimes he scuffes shots while being pressured

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006, 2012

Postby ingus » 2012 Jun 29, 19:08

will change later

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006 & 2011-2012

Postby Yazid » 2012 Jun 29, 19:59

Tbh, Pirlo is better than ever right now, Tech I would even suggest at 94, below Ozil is a crime (although I think Ozil is too high).

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Re: Andrea PIRLO | 2004-2006 & 2011-2012

Postby Cristiano_Naniano » 2012 Sep 09, 17:25

Yazid wrote:Tbh, Pirlo is better than ever right now, Tech I would even suggest at 94, below Ozil is a crime (although I think Ozil is too high).


For me Pirlo was better in his AC Milan era, only he has much more protagonism now...

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